Sep 09 14:06:55 I LOVE THIS! Sep 09 14:06:58 cool.. a celebrity Sep 09 14:07:04 * Bentley (n=Bentley@S010600195bb1a3a2.cg.shawcable.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:07:31 * thecoolone19-2 has quit () Sep 09 14:07:33 about the book, is there a 2nd edition planned covering D6 ? Sep 09 14:07:40 AND VIDEO TOO! Sep 09 14:07:40 i can SEE Sep 09 14:07:43 * walt (n=walt@user-387ocr8.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:07:45 * yumminy (n=yumminy@adsl-072-148-236-096.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:07:48 wow. slides Sep 09 14:07:52 Drupaldojo.com still sais: No screencast yet :-/ Sep 09 14:07:53 ys Sep 09 14:07:55 perfectlyu Sep 09 14:07:56 yes Sep 09 14:07:57 metta: yep! :) Sep 09 14:07:58 yes Sep 09 14:07:58 * Linulo hears matt Sep 09 14:07:58 yes Sep 09 14:07:59 I can hear ya. :) Sep 09 14:08:01 sounds good Sep 09 14:08:01 * cmbehr (n=cmbehr@c-68-43-124-5.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:08:04 unfortunately, I was going to show off this dojo session to the masses at DrupalCampLA, but AOL has all ports blocked except 80 and 43 Sep 09 14:08:14 what is the link to just the screencast? Sep 09 14:08:14 *443 Sep 09 14:08:16 * maureentheisen has quit ("PJIRC forever!") Sep 09 14:08:24 lol Sep 09 14:08:24 Senpai|lappy: ssh tunnel for the win Sep 09 14:08:29 * maureentheisen (n=maureent@75-93-201-215.ral.clearwire-dns.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:08:34 * thecoolone19-2 (i=thecoolo@89-139-13-36.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:08:34 * Bentley_ (n=rcourtna@S010600195bb1a3a2.cg.shawcable.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:08:35 * AndrewGearhart laughs silently. Sep 09 14:08:38 i'm taking them off right now! Sep 09 14:08:40 the sound echoes Sep 09 14:08:43 * Bentley has quit (Client Quit) Sep 09 14:08:44 http://webavant.com/dojo1 Sep 09 14:09:13 thecoolone19-2: do you have TS open and the browser open both? Sep 09 14:09:15 thecoolone19-2: cut your microphone, I had the same problem Sep 09 14:09:36 echo Sep 09 14:09:43 there's no echo Sep 09 14:09:45 it's your configuration Sep 09 14:09:53 * mpare has quit ("Peace!") Sep 09 14:09:58 close teamspeak if you have an echo Sep 09 14:10:04 http://webavant.com/dojo1/vnc.htm is what I was looking for .. Sep 09 14:10:09 * fwalch (n=fwalch@194.208.89.234) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:10:11 i dnt have teenspeek Sep 09 14:10:13 * kmillecam (n=kmilleca@66.7.127.163) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:10:25 hmm.. I'm not getting an echo Sep 09 14:10:27 how long is this session? Sep 09 14:10:34 * Gustav726 (n=Gustav@pD9531DE6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:10:36 i have the sound, but black screen, is it normal ? Sep 09 14:10:37 thanks, close teamspeak Sep 09 14:10:40 no echo here. Sep 09 14:10:44 raf841: you should see Matt's screen Sep 09 14:10:48 could it be because im recording using camtasia ? Sep 09 14:10:52 raf841: the screen you can see at http://webavant.com/dojo1/vnc.htm Sep 09 14:10:54 should now have a bulleted list. Sep 09 14:11:04 * lcannell has quit ("PJIRC forever!") Sep 09 14:11:08 thecoolone19-2: yes Sep 09 14:11:25 webavant: so what shld i do ? Sep 09 14:11:32 no goofing! we are totally serious 100% of the time :p Sep 09 14:11:36 please, someone has the direct link to the design chapter? Sep 09 14:11:37 * xulu025 has quit ("PJIRC forever!") Sep 09 14:11:42 add1sun: Sam the Eagle serious. Sep 09 14:11:43 thecoolone19-2: mute your microphone? I don't know... Sep 09 14:11:54 * thecoolone19-2 is now known as thecoolone19 Sep 09 14:11:55 Matt's book rocks soooo much! Sep 09 14:11:57 floown, http://www.apress.com/book/downloadfile/3519 Sep 09 14:12:02 webchick, totally Sep 09 14:12:05 thx add1sun Sep 09 14:12:10 i can see a bulleted list, should I be hearing anything? thanks! Sep 09 14:12:14 we don't giggle on podcasts either Sep 09 14:12:23 lullabot shameless ad ;) Sep 09 14:12:46 maureentheisen, yes there is sound Sep 09 14:12:52 you mean you edit the giggles add1sun? Sep 09 14:12:53 * ericelbow has quit ("PJIRC forever!") Sep 09 14:12:57 is there no sounds now ?? Sep 09 14:13:04 yes there is sound Sep 09 14:13:09 i hear sound Sep 09 14:13:11 hi! is anyone recording the audio/video? Sep 09 14:13:26 metta: can't see your screen.. refresh VNC if yo ucan Sep 09 14:13:28 Hm, typo3 out of the box looks like... well, an empty box. Sep 09 14:13:36 oh wait Sep 09 14:13:38 sorry I see it Sep 09 14:13:40 webavant: refreshing Sep 09 14:13:41 yup Sep 09 14:13:43 I'm recording Video *only* Sep 09 14:13:44 refreshed Sep 09 14:13:44 are we good? Sep 09 14:13:47 yeah good Sep 09 14:13:49 metta yes Sep 09 14:13:49 looks good to me Sep 09 14:13:50 rock Sep 09 14:13:57 Which site did he say? lifetime.com? Sep 09 14:13:58 looks good to me Sep 09 14:14:07 dvessel: i guess my recording isint working. Sep 09 14:14:19 i mite give it up now Sep 09 14:14:28 thecoolone19: Okay, we should be fine. Others are recording too. Sep 09 14:14:34 * mpare (n=mpare@adsl-70-238-196-50.dsl.lbcktx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:14:41 sweet, thanks you all :) Sep 09 14:14:41 umm. Sep 09 14:14:42 If Matt is switching screens, I'm not seeing it, still on Lifetime Sep 09 14:14:43 thx Sep 09 14:14:53 hmm... eah Sep 09 14:14:55 still on lifetime Sep 09 14:14:57 still on Lifetime Sep 09 14:14:59 webavant, is it having troublw refreshing? Sep 09 14:15:00 me too Sep 09 14:15:02 still on Lifetime Sep 09 14:15:02 still of Lifetime too Sep 09 14:15:03 Looks like VNC not updating automatically? Sep 09 14:15:08 not sure why... Sep 09 14:15:12 * vordude860 (i=vordude@c-75-70-70-243.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:15:15 usually works fine Sep 09 14:15:18 add1sun: if you could tell him Sep 09 14:15:21 * vordude860 has quit (Client Quit) Sep 09 14:15:27 * sepeck has no mic Sep 09 14:15:30 correct.... /me is trying to get the viewer and view using standalone client Sep 09 14:15:42 there Sep 09 14:15:44 updating now Sep 09 14:15:47 ah Sep 09 14:15:53 Yes, refreshing problems Sep 09 14:16:13 * chx (n=knegyesi@drupal.org/user/9446/view) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:16:16 looks good now Sep 09 14:16:16 that's working! Sep 09 14:16:19 Interestingly, when I went to http://www.webavant.com/dojo1/ with Firefox...it frozed on me. Sep 09 14:16:30 teamspeak? Sep 09 14:16:31 Download teamspeak at http://teamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads | To connect, use "webavant.com:8768" as the servername, and your preferred nickname with no password. | If you are on Mac watch this screencast: http://dmitrizone.com/dump/teamspeak_for_mac.mov | More info at http://groups.drupal.org/node/4944 Sep 09 14:16:32 But usint IE7 it works. Sep 09 14:16:35 I dont mind a keynote frame around the slides Sep 09 14:16:36 yeah, it does seem to be the full-screen that's throwing things off. Sep 09 14:16:38 full screen maybe. this works as well withthe indesx just fine Sep 09 14:16:43 metta: I think you're right... fs borking it Sep 09 14:17:07 oh man it froze again Sep 09 14:17:10 works fine Sep 09 14:17:15 ok cool Sep 09 14:17:28 * sutha has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Sep 09 14:17:29 Ozzi! w00t! Sep 09 14:17:42 niceeee Sep 09 14:17:46 this by them!! <3 Sep 09 14:17:47 yay mystery meat on the pete droge site :) Sep 09 14:17:51 * maureentheisen has quit ("PJIRC forever!") Sep 09 14:18:08 lol Sep 09 14:18:16 I hear voices in my head. (maybe outside my head :P ) Sep 09 14:18:34 crap gotta go. Sep 09 14:18:35 haha Sep 09 14:18:35 bbiab Sep 09 14:18:36 * webchick has quit () Sep 09 14:18:38 brb, tea refresh Sep 09 14:18:39 Thats ok until they tell you to use yoomla Sep 09 14:19:19 themers can wears many hats Sep 09 14:19:38 * sutha (n=sutha@ip5456f841.speed.planet.nl) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:20:42 I sure hope you guys get this recorded, cause I can't see it. Sep 09 14:20:49 I'm recording Sep 09 14:20:50 * jgirlygirl (i=jgirlygi@ool-45790257.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:20:58 wonderful Sep 09 14:20:59 Screenshot or HTML/CSS: catastrophic starting point, bluemarine: bad starting point, Zen: a little better (sorry Jeff), Empty text file and Matt's book: Perfect starting point. Sep 09 14:21:00 I'm gonna get back to the seions here, but I'l try to check in again soon Sep 09 14:21:05 *sessions Sep 09 14:21:09 See you all later! Sep 09 14:21:13 doing fine Sep 09 14:21:15 yeah Sep 09 14:21:22 * Senpai has quit (Connection timed out) Sep 09 14:21:28 * newms (n=newms@72.252.192.146) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:21:29 I started a bit late, but it looks like I'm recording now. Sep 09 14:21:46 * mortendk has quit () Sep 09 14:21:51 . . . at least, the video. Sep 09 14:21:54 * JuliaKM (n=JuliaKM@pool-71-111-251-229.rlghnc.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:22:05 * maureentheisen (n=maureent@75-93-201-215.ral.clearwire-dns.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:22:10 I am recording Teamspeak and no video :) Sep 09 14:22:12 i've got recoding going as well Sep 09 14:22:12 I'm making a recording to as backup - just in case Sep 09 14:22:49 * mortendk (n=mortendk@0x5552c12c.adsl.cybercity.dk) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:23:01 * juliakm_ (n=Julia@pool-71-111-251-229.rlghnc.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:23:24 * mortendk (n=mortendk@0x5552c12c.adsl.cybercity.dk) has left #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:23:45 Im not recording :D Sep 09 14:23:55 * crooked_number (n=dmoore@146-115-59-38.c3-0.wtr-ubr1.sbo-wtr.ma.cable.rcn.com) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:24:18 Is phpTal the flavor of the month theming engine? Sep 09 14:24:27 no Sep 09 14:24:33 Linulo, phptemplate Sep 09 14:24:36 is the default Sep 09 14:24:37 definitely not Sep 09 14:24:40 Just plone converts I guess Sep 09 14:24:40 * Bdragon|afk (n=Bdragon@dpc6746139138.direcpc.com) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:25:22 * BryanS1 (n=Bryan@host-91-169-2-96.midco.net) has left #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:25:44 * Gustav726 has quit ("PJIRC forever!") Sep 09 14:26:38 :-) Sep 09 14:26:41 * ericelbow (n=ericelbo@ip72-213-40-137.om.om.cox.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:26:45 * anantagati (n=anantaga@151.174-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:26:58 ugh, smarty Sep 09 14:27:07 Not that Dreamweaver will break it consistantly Sep 09 14:27:10 +e Sep 09 14:27:18 the amount of people using alternatives to phptemplate is oh so very very very small Sep 09 14:27:23 so, is phptemplate already with the core drupal 5.0 that i downloaded? Sep 09 14:27:29 yes Sep 09 14:27:30 yes Sep 09 14:27:34 that is the defualt one Sep 09 14:27:34 thanks, Sep 09 14:27:34 core since 4.7 Sep 09 14:27:50 * orson has quit ("PJIRC forever!") Sep 09 14:28:00 why phptemplate better if it's the only one requiring explicit for loop? Sep 09 14:28:15 is phptemplate specific to drupal? Sep 09 14:28:20 cuuuuuute! Sep 09 14:28:24 Linulo: yes Sep 09 14:28:25 btw, .theme == no theme engine Sep 09 14:28:28 hehe Sep 09 14:28:30 hah hah.. random cuteness Sep 09 14:28:33 liu, yes Sep 09 14:28:37 thanks Sep 09 14:28:48 gwideman: because it is supported by the vast horde of Drupal users and you can do it without a look Sep 09 14:28:52 look == loop Sep 09 14:29:02 ooooh everyone's favorite ferrets :) Sep 09 14:29:04 Thx Sep 09 14:29:38 Does Drupal 7 have full ferret support or do I need contrib modules for that? Sep 09 14:29:44 D7 ? Sep 09 14:29:50 D6 is not released yet Sep 09 14:29:53 lol Sep 09 14:30:00 i think it was a joke Sep 09 14:30:05 * blakehall (n=blakehal@68-190-117-55.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:30:13 * Linulo stops trying to be funny Sep 09 14:30:47 but guardian no new features in 6 at this point Sep 09 14:31:03 * Senpai|lappy has quit ("The computer fell asleep") Sep 09 14:31:05 and we need quadraped support before we can have ferret support Sep 09 14:31:14 Linulo: I laughed Sep 09 14:31:15 great book by the way - a bit over my head - but I'm determined to understand Sep 09 14:31:24 http://drupal.org/node/11812 Sep 09 14:31:27 http://drupal.org/node/11812 => Page.tpl.php => 15 IRC mentions Sep 09 14:31:31 In case variables may change in the future, a print_r($GLOBALS) in your node.tpl.php can show you everything that's there. Sep 09 14:31:41 * noname1 (n=noname1@ool-4353b2d5.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:31:42 * blakehall766 (n=blakehal@68-190-117-55.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:31:47 are folks having to scroll up and down to view the full screen, or is it just me? Sep 09 14:31:49 I already call Drupal 6 the Performing Polecat as an inside joke so there is some support for ferrets :) Sep 09 14:31:50 Linulo: incorrect Sep 09 14:31:57 screen is good for me Sep 09 14:32:05 chx, you're right Sep 09 14:32:20 we have ferret performance in 6 Sep 09 14:32:20 print_r($variables) Sep 09 14:32:30 and ferret cuteness theming will be 7 ;) Sep 09 14:32:32 * noname1 has quit (Client Quit) Sep 09 14:32:37 walt: me too but I can centre the text so I see everything Sep 09 14:32:43 dvessel, Uhm, sorry, right. Sep 09 14:33:28 would this load only on the users' profile page, or all pages for that user? Sep 09 14:34:03 newms, define "this" pls Sep 09 14:34:05 * incrn8 (n=incrn8@modemcable031.2-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:34:24 it won't look for page-node-edit-1 ? Sep 09 14:34:25 * ferran587 (n=ferran@253.Red-83-57-191.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:34:25 * orson (n=orson@c-75-68-247-121.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:34:29 I believe he meant that URL structure Sep 09 14:34:31 newms: depends on the naming. Goes from generic to specific... page-user.tpl.php == general, page-user-1.tpl.php specific. Sep 09 14:34:32 * ferran587 has quit (Client Quit) Sep 09 14:34:34 as in the specific page-node.tpl.php Sep 09 14:34:40 * Guest939 (n=Guest939@253.Red-83-57-191.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:34:40 * ChanServ removes channel operator status from add1sun Sep 09 14:34:43 * Guest939 has quit (Client Quit) Sep 09 14:34:56 Can you do page-view.tpl.php? Sep 09 14:35:01 * ferran245 (n=ferran@253.Red-83-57-191.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:35:08 ah Sep 09 14:35:09 newms: page-node.tpl would be pretty generic Sep 09 14:35:13 hi metta :) Sep 09 14:35:19 chx denies theming involvement :) Sep 09 14:35:54 chx propably can not be disturbed by theming anyway Sep 09 14:35:57 * orson has quit (Client Quit) Sep 09 14:36:09 * orson (n=orson@c-75-68-247-121.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:36:20 Linulo: chx is beyond being disturbed Sep 09 14:36:26 i did not hear what was said, does page-front.tpl.php works for any node specified in the admin settigns for front page ? Sep 09 14:36:27 [[ Sep 09 14:36:29 // Build a list of suggested template files in order of specificity. One Sep 09 14:36:29 // suggestion is made for every element of the current path, though Sep 09 14:36:29 // numeric elements are not carried to subsequent suggestions. For example, Sep 09 14:36:32 // http://www.example.com/node/1/edit would result in the following Sep 09 14:36:35 // suggestions: Sep 09 14:36:37 // Sep 09 14:36:40 // page-node-edit.tpl.php Sep 09 14:36:42 // page-node-1.tpl.php Sep 09 14:36:42 guardian, page-front Sep 09 14:36:43 guardian: for the frontpage Sep 09 14:36:45 // page-node.tpl.php Sep 09 14:36:47 // page.tpl.php Sep 09 14:36:50 ]] Sep 09 14:36:53 is for the front page not a node Sep 09 14:37:05 even if i set front page to be node/xxx ? Sep 09 14:37:08 * mortendk (n=mortendk@0x5552c12c.adsl.cybercity.dk) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:37:10 * ferran245 has quit (Client Quit) Sep 09 14:37:14 oh i see what you are saying Sep 09 14:37:26 blue marine! Garland more complex Sep 09 14:37:27 yes it doesn't matter what is set Sep 09 14:37:28 guardian: yes Sep 09 14:37:36 so, the basis of the theme concept is a concatenating a string variable $content correct? Sep 09 14:37:38 it will use that page template Sep 09 14:38:01 thank you Sep 09 14:38:55 AndrewGearhart: theming concept would be better understood by understanding theming hooks and how/where it's called. Sep 09 14:39:03 Node.tpl.php variables: http://drupal.org/node/11816 Sep 09 14:39:03 * ximo (n=ximo@4.80-202-136.nextgentel.com) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:39:08 http://drupal.org/node/11816 => Node.tpl.php => 13 IRC mentions Sep 09 14:39:16 does path auto affect the template name parsing? Sep 09 14:39:20 * drupal (n=drupal@253.Red-83-57-191.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:39:33 nice3z, no Sep 09 14:39:34 * t-kamen (n=t-kamen@d38-194-34.home1.cgocable.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:39:49 dvessel: right... I didn't explain my question correctly... but metta 's last slide confirmed my suspicion... very cool. :) thanks Sep 09 14:39:59 could i have template based on path auto name? Sep 09 14:39:59 drupal uses its internal naming and paths, not the aliased stuff Sep 09 14:40:10 then i guess that's a no Sep 09 14:40:16 thx Sep 09 14:40:28 nice3z, you can create Sep 09 14:40:33 your own "suggestions" Sep 09 14:40:45 so you can tell drupal Sep 09 14:40:49 sorry for this question but, i own the book, does the screencast feature something that's not in the book appart from interactive questionts ? does anyone happen to know ? Sep 09 14:41:06 yes!! d6 has expanded on that big time. Sep 09 14:41:09 that a templat file called x is to be used in this particlaur place that you can define Sep 09 14:41:10 nice3z: Drupal very , very early un-aliases the path so most of the system has no idea of the alias set by pathauto Sep 09 14:41:14 Does the delta depend on the module only, or also on the order in which content is added? Sep 09 14:41:19 * Senpai (n=Joel@m0b0e36d0.tmodns.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:41:27 http://drupal.org/node/132442#template-suggestions Sep 09 14:41:28 http://drupal.org/node/132442 => Converting 5.x themes to 6.x => 10 IRC mentions Sep 09 14:41:43 Matt said something about "ninja" theming. I could not find that in the book. Plus we have ferrets here! Sep 09 14:41:54 guardian, well after the slides Sep 09 14:41:57 * yoroy (n=yoroy@h41084.upc-h.chello.nl) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:41:58 there will be like coding Sep 09 14:42:04 like = live Sep 09 14:42:10 @add1sun: any possible doc over that? Sep 09 14:42:11 ok Sep 09 14:42:50 * walt has quit ("PJIRC forever!") Sep 09 14:42:52 please can someone recall me how the delta value is assigned to the block ? it's when you code the block ? Sep 09 14:43:01 * rcj_ (n=rcj@p5087DE10.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:43:01 yes Sep 09 14:43:05 does print_r($variables) work here too Sep 09 14:43:19 is the video lagging behind the audio ?? Sep 09 14:43:29 what if they are module provided blocks ? they can potentially share the delta ? Sep 09 14:43:29 shouldn't be Sep 09 14:43:32 a block developer assigns it as an index of a block within the module Sep 09 14:43:35 not for me Sep 09 14:43:47 vanvemden: inside any .tpl file, yes. Sep 09 14:43:49 Linulo: Ninjas on page 111 + 122 Sep 09 14:43:49 im seeing comment.tpl.php rite now is that right ? Sep 09 14:43:51 ah my bad, delta depends on module Sep 09 14:43:51 comments are comments... not nodes Sep 09 14:44:08 thanks dvessel Sep 09 14:44:23 * ferran299 (n=ferran@253.Red-83-57-191.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:44:23 comment-nodetype.tpl.php is available in 6 Sep 09 14:44:27 * ferran299 has quit (Client Quit) Sep 09 14:44:33 chx: say I have a front page that changes often (pointing to different node), instead of page-node-X.tpl.php, how to have a page-frontpage.tpl.php? Sep 09 14:44:37 metta: you can change the file to be used in phptemplate_variables so if you want comment-nodetype it's easy Sep 09 14:44:57 nice3z: see my note to metta just here Sep 09 14:45:05 * drupal has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Sep 09 14:45:36 * test346 (i=test@c-76-27-193-53.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:46:12 The naming hierarchy can be totally different in other theming engines? Sep 09 14:46:33 chx: i c.. using callback for a custom template file Sep 09 14:46:44 * zacker2 has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Sep 09 14:46:47 Linulo: It follows the same convention but the naming is based on engines. Sep 09 14:47:01 * test346 has quit (Client Quit) Sep 09 14:47:05 Linulo: that's my understanding.... but themes are usually built for a given theme engine Sep 09 14:47:25 template.php files are theme specific Sep 09 14:47:30 nice3z: no, using phptemplate_variables() to add one suggestion with $variables['template_file'] or add more with $variables['template_files'] Sep 09 14:47:40 But I guess, phpTal will have the specific-to-general priority thingy Sep 09 14:47:42 as well Sep 09 14:47:52 Linulo: yes, the file hierarchy is defined in phptemplate.engie so it's totally up to another engie Sep 09 14:48:29 chx: have not drill into that yet, will search later Sep 09 14:48:33 I never understood what jeff said about Zen becoming an engine and then back again in D6. Sep 09 14:48:54 Linulo: we can cover that afterwords Sep 09 14:49:47 k, thx, sry, did not mean to add static to a crowded chan. Sep 09 14:49:58 is there a list of overridable theming functions? Sep 09 14:50:14 * colinsagan (n=Colin@adsl-69-228-94-25.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 14:50:24 liu: yes Sep 09 14:50:38 * mike_bucks has quit ("PJIRC forever!") Sep 09 14:50:46 http://api.drupal.org/api/group/themeable/5 Sep 09 14:50:52 thanks Sep 09 14:50:58 http://api.drupal.org/api/group/themeable/5 Sep 09 14:51:02 You can also do phptemplate_user_picture to abstract from module name Sep 09 14:51:02 too slow. Sep 09 14:51:20 :) Sep 09 14:51:43 * maureentheisen has quit ("PJIRC forever!") Sep 09 14:52:20 yeah.. just like that. Sep 09 14:52:52 chx: why too slow? Sep 09 14:53:04 dvessel linked first Sep 09 14:53:45 right Sep 09 14:54:10 web designers cannot be trusted ;-) Sep 09 14:54:29 heh.. true. Sep 09 14:54:33 and its not just safer but cleaner and easier to maintain for yourself aas well Sep 09 14:55:08 not necessarily faster though. And my designs stink :( Sep 09 14:55:27 often, more work up front equals less work later Sep 09 14:55:49 (note: I would call this function phptemplate_breadcrumb so that more than one theme can work off it) Sep 09 14:55:54 by work up front you mean teaching web designers php basics? ;-) Sep 09 14:56:06 chx - thats wat I said too. Sep 09 14:56:31 Linulo: how teaching Smarty vs. PHP basics differ? It's just syntax to have conditions, loops, prints. Sep 09 14:56:37 i thought chx said too slow to windstalkers question Sep 09 14:56:57 nah. Sep 09 14:57:01 cool Sep 09 14:59:03 $is_front, $zebra, $id.. etc Sep 09 14:59:25 _phptemplate_default_variables generates those. Sep 09 14:59:51 http://drupal.org/node/16383 Sep 09 14:59:58 http://drupal.org/node/16383 => Making additional variables available to your templates => 9 IRC mentions Sep 09 15:00:32 * orson has quit ("PJIRC forever!") Sep 09 15:00:40 * orson (n=orson@c-75-68-247-121.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 15:00:43 does anybody know how many users are watching this? Sep 09 15:01:06 Haha.. i like that. Sep 09 15:01:38 wow Sep 09 15:01:44 * zacker2 (n=zacker@189.172.125.141) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 15:01:51 about 98 Sep 09 15:01:57 I think Sep 09 15:01:59 Yannick: how do you know? Sep 09 15:02:00 smart variable, that $logged_in Sep 09 15:02:02 Yannick: lol Sep 09 15:02:06 nice3z, from ealier and related to this now: http://drupal.org/node/139766 Sep 09 15:02:08 http://drupal.org/node/139766 => Different page templates depending on URL aliases => 1 IRC mention Sep 09 15:02:17 I could be wrong? hehe Sep 09 15:02:28 Yannick: yeah I think so heh heh... let me check Sep 09 15:02:35 add1sun: thx! Sep 09 15:02:41 How's it going? Good lesson? Sep 09 15:02:42 Note, _phptemplate_HOOK() can also be used to intercept variables. It's not commonly used though. Sep 09 15:02:55 Is changing these variables best practice or considered "hacky"? Sep 09 15:03:15 Michelle: very good... you can't tune in? Sep 09 15:03:19 is by design Sep 09 15:03:29 Michelle: excellent lesson Sep 09 15:03:34 Linulo, it is the way to do it if you need it Sep 09 15:03:36 I just got here. I'll watch the recording sometime Sep 09 15:03:39 * ferran964 (n=ferran@253.Red-83-57-191.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 15:03:50 Michelle: highly recommended Sep 09 15:03:59 I just noticed that there was a number beside #drupal-dojo at the top and saw that it increased when someone joined the chat Sep 09 15:04:02 What are those regions for? I never use them in my themes. Sep 09 15:04:10 VVindstalker, regions Sep 09 15:04:14 are where you placve blocks Sep 09 15:04:24 Yannick: oh yeah... there are a lot more in the chat than viewing the lesson Sep 09 15:04:25 so when you put a block in the right sidebar Sep 09 15:04:27 Well, so I did not necessarily overlook many better options if I resort to changing the $variables? Sep 09 15:04:27 that is a region Sep 09 15:04:28 I don't need them. I just dump div's all around. Sep 09 15:04:32 I'm guessing that is the number of persons in the chat, which I kind of assumed were also viewing the lesson Sep 09 15:04:41 oh okay Sep 09 15:04:43 :) Sep 09 15:04:50 * zacker2_ (n=zacker@189.172.125.141) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 15:04:55 http://drupal.org/node/29139 Sep 09 15:04:57 http://drupal.org/node/29139 => Regions in PHPTemplate => 30 IRC mentions Sep 09 15:05:11 * zacker2_ has quit (Client Quit) Sep 09 15:05:12 cell phone too near to microphone Sep 09 15:05:13 VVindstalker, you can do that as well - depends on the needs of your site and theme Sep 09 15:05:16 sepeck - "regions?" for that Sep 09 15:05:25 It was a good attempt :P Sep 09 15:05:27 hmm... my audio is off? Sep 09 15:05:46 damn i missed the regions! :( Sep 09 15:05:51 ah alright now.. reenable the audio Sep 09 15:06:09 Linulo.. I just can't think what you might need them for. Unless you have some kind of dynamic "blocks" ... Sep 09 15:06:14 * zacker2 has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Sep 09 15:06:15 Michelle, link was for Windstalker Sep 09 15:06:16 hehe Sep 09 15:06:22 Thank you very much indeed, Matt, great presentation! Sep 09 15:06:26 there are 78 unique IPs viewing the VNC right now... Sep 09 15:06:37 cck buffet! Sep 09 15:06:41 Antwerp Sep 09 15:06:47 sepeck - I know. I was just telling you that it's in the bot so you dont' need to look it up :) Sep 09 15:06:58 ah Sep 09 15:07:01 sepeck - can i get the link again? Sep 09 15:07:02 cool webavant Sep 09 15:07:06 Question - themeing a cck page like taxonomy/term/4 Sep 09 15:07:10 how? Sep 09 15:07:13 lol Sep 09 15:07:21 * daggi (n=chrisada@82-45-160-216.cable.ubr05.hari.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #drupal-dojo Sep 09 15:07:25 regions? Sep 09 15:07:25 regions is http://drupal.org/node/29139 Sep 09 15:07:34 so do folks have questions at this point? Sep 09 15:07:39 sorry mant taxonomy page not cck page Sep 09 15:07:58 how to theme a page like taxonomy/term/4 Sep 09 15:08:07 Yes, I have some q uesitons. Sep 09 15:08:11 yes, very good question Sep 09 15:08:14 LET'S GET READY TO DRRRRRUPALLLLLLL! Sep 09 15:08:23 metta: taxonomy/term/4 theming? Sep 09 15:08:27 metta: ghankstef asked Sep 09 15:08:32 ghankstef: rename page.tpl.php to page-taxonomy-term-4.tpl.php Sep 09 15:08:45 metta, dvessel's got it Sep 09 15:08:57 * ferran964 has quit ("PJIRC forever!") Sep 09 15:08:58 cool - thaks Sep 09 15:08:59 me? that page is not themeable, only the node teasers are Sep 09 15:09:10 No questions here...thanks for the presentation Matt. Sep 09 15:09:54 I'd like to mention this link as well that does that http://www.blkmtn.org/Quick-and-dirty-OSWD-theme-to-Drupal Sep 09 15:09:59 not andreas 7 Sep 09 15:10:03 sweet - good idea matt Sep 09 15:10:06 http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/2426 Sep 09 15:10:22 but oswd.org themes are not that great Sep 09 15:10:33 is example, you can do this with anything Sep 09 15:10:38 sure Sep 09 15:10:42 well its an easy source for an exercise... ;) Sep 09 15:10:52 sure Sep 09 15:11:08 It's OpenSource. Go contrib great themes there. ;-) Sep 09 15:11:56 that's the excuse of open source projects when something's lacking ;) Sep 09 15:12:13 Cant wait to see the adminpanel lockout in about 1 min. Sep 09 15:12:14 isn't it supposed to be in themes dir? Sep 09 15:12:21 right website? /sites/all/themes Sep 09 15:12:34 metta: style.css Sep 09 15:12:45 shouldn't car about style.css Sep 09 15:12:47 yeah, strange Sep 09 15:12:51